from Dan Winter's email conversations.. May 05, Published by Implosion Group . Newsletter- on the web (if pics are missing in your email viewer) at: goldenmean.info/lovevibe main index goldenmean.info

Dedicated to Michael Heleus.. who today wrote: "to paraphrase Jonathan Switft's famous couplet about fleas, one of the first western literature references to (perfect embedding?) scale invariance--

"big knots have beside 'm
little knots to go inside 'em
and so on, ad infinitem"
-- to which we would add.. if you wanted to slip knot into a tornado.. or the ANU of hydrogen - would this 'knot' be the way? (more: goldenmean.info/knotslipping )

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For our intro and teaser - we present frames from the worlds fastest selling NASA space video tape - ( David Sereda - http://www.laufo.com/science-sereda.html )
showing the shape of the UFO craft (real footage from NASA) he calls: GALAXY CLOCK

...For those unfamiliar with Dan Winter's work to mathematically topo map the Golden Mean spiral on a donut - to prove the ORIGIN of the ALPHABET.. (http://spirals.eternite.com ) - we strongly suggest looking again at the bottom right computer graph - below of his equations (animated at the link into each letter of Hebrew, and our English / Roman ALPHABET .. with links to Sanskrit as well)..

David Sereda ( alienresistance.org and laufo.com ) says of this what he calls GALAXY CLOCK: ""The Galaxy Clock is the model used in a new theory in Quantum Physics that will demonstrate how to cause mass (spacecraft) to break Einstein's law and attain light speed and beyond. Einstein's law prohibits any mass from attaining the speed of light (see Steven Hawkings).
Basically, his law states that as any spacecraft or mass solid object tries to increase its speed, its mass increases towards infinity due to inertia. As its mass increases with higher velocities, it takes more and more energy to accelerate it. The faster it goes, the more its mass increases and it becomes impossible for it to attain light speed because it would take an infinite amount of energy. Max Planck, the Godfather of Quantum
Physics had a theory that gives the basis for a new break-through in Quantum mechanics.
Hidden in his code is a secret that could change history. Find out what the hidden code is.--- Scientists have discovered that matter (mass) on a subatomic level is just electromagnetic wave patterns vibrating so fast within a space that they give the illusion that mass is solid. Because of this dichotmoy, mass is believed to be both made of particles and waves. Particle and wave theory are fusing together as they are both revealing the same thing. All mass has waves that vibrate at different
frequencies. The waves in solid mass as we experience it is relatively low in frequency (measured in Hertzian waves). Photons (lightwaves) are very high in frequency (Hertzian waves). Photons are said to have near zero-mass, a property that allows them to attain light speed. A Photon's mass is a huge debate still unanswered until now.

The Galaxy Clock will show us how to reduce an object's (spacecraft's) mass (breaking Einstein's law) (insert from Dan - hint: gravitycode ) and cause it to become as light as a photon's mass (nearly zero). Because mass can now be reduced to Zero, an object's (spacecraft's) mass can now easily glide towards light speed. In this theory we will
examine what properties a photon has that allow it to attain light speed and how mass can also attain the same properties. This new theory will show how solid mass (spacecraft) can change frequency and transform into the same frequency as light at attain light speed.""... ( insert from Dan - not exactly reduce mass to zero - but translate the vorticity of what was rotational inertia which physics defines as mass, into linear inertia - 'energy' with no loss of phase discipline or information content along the way: the MEANING in 'infinite non-destructive compression' - Einstein's now solved dilemna)

Compare this to Dan Winter's explanation at goldenmean.info/gravitycode - HOW the Golden Spiral map ( and the Dodeca symmetry / Golden Ratio stellations - POINCARE uses to map gravity) - turns compression IN to accleration - proving that SELF-SIMILARITY (of charge) is the CAUSE of GRAVITY - .... AND LIFE!

When Duane Whitlock and Luke Gatto - studied this 'Galaxy Clock' with David.. they were sure it was -AN 'ET' DNA MAKER.. seeding DNA all over the Galaxy.. - so in that honor we reprint one picture from goldenmean.info/ringlord and goldenmean.info/knotslipping about the USE of this alphabet flame letter as software (symmetry knot recipe for compressing charge successfully to nourish DNA) - for Genetic Engineering..

end - intro teaser...

Here is our warmup - to LOVEVIBE- DOES LOVE HAVE A FREQUENCY?

- in the spirit of the now famous Dialog: SHOULD WE SEND LOVE?? ( Can or Should we Really SEND LOVE? goldenmean.info/implosionhazards/ a Dratch. Drunvalo, Winter dialog since 1998 , also - How the Geometry of Pressure in Your TOUCH - Predicts... and the Should we "Send Love" dialog.. fr winter, dratch,drunvalo, many others.
You were lying in bed one night with your lover and she said, ...soulinvitation.com/touch/touch.html )

Note below - links - for groups learning to SEND LOVE - by watching the effect on a seed germinating in your hand!

Thanks to Lutz Stradmann , email: 05121269187-0001@t-online.de - whose ongoing project - deals with the science of SENDING LOVE - who writes..

"Thank you for the inspiring conference. (Stuttgart - last week) Here is the download link for Klaus Joehle´s books. The fist book is called "Living on love --- The messenger". All books are written as a novel. http://lovebook2.tripod.com/books.shtml#download On this website is also a link to a few MP3´s of talks and meditations of Klaus. Very interesting is the talk "10 minutes to radiance" and also the two part talk which you´ll find there.

This is Klaus Joehle´s own site, I am not sure if the books are available here for download. http://www.geocities.com/livingonluv/

The homestudy course "SyncCreation" I mentioned is available here: http://www.rainbowventures.net/homestudy.html

Dr. Gallenberger, the author of this course makes it very clear that in order to achieve significant PK (psychokinetic) power you need to cultivate a high ernergy state of pure love.

Thinking about what "sending" love really means it may be indeed be more a steering of the implosion cone whith its center originating in the heart. It is named "sending" only due to that an appropriate word to describe this experience is not common in everyday life.

I will start my own experiments now with "sending" love, as soon as I have some results which could be published I will let you know. Lutz"

So- we are now ready to discuss this Happening in the Heart: DOES LOVE HAVE A FREQUENCY-

It had been our contention that indeed multiples of Golden Mean ratio was the mechanism of the parking of the Heart Rate and it's arithmetic intervals .. for many years. This began intense dialog about whether Golden Mean arithmetic cascades could indicate EMBEDDING. ( goldenmean.info/harmonicexplorer , goldenmean.info/heartjournal etc.). It was clear even at that time that the context for ability of a wave to NEST NON-Destructively established it's necessary harmonic geometry with all life. (Take multiples of plank in physics and decide on the musical key of every wave nature allows immortality). This then originated what has since become the whole GLOBAL SCALING movement. ( goldenmean.info/globalscaling ).

`Early on- then - from when we first instructed Heart Math Institute how to analyze a heartbeat - we contended that PHI ratio embedding could literally be the basis of LO - VE. (Lo phi).

It was the chart of our 1992 or so power spectra of an EKG - showing square root of 1.618 harmonic intervals in an EKG during love - which sparked Heart Math Institute to hire us to teach them "Heart Math". Later it was argued that finding an Heart Rate common parking place for EMPATHY (Love?) at 1.618 hz musical key - was not sacred because the second was not sacred. Later it was shown that by using the Plank TIME CONSTANT ( which IS sacred because it DOES embed) - that indeed that place on the GLOBAL SCALING for hearts COULD IN FACT BE SACRED OR GLOBALLY SCALED ( the Emotional index / EKG musical KEY which we originally found identified more empathic emotion- teaching folk to move from HEAD to HEART centered emotion.).

So for years we lectured that clearly LOVE and it's correlate EMBEDDING - DID have a ratio (Golden Mean). And that since this ratio - BEGINS with the wavelengths sacred (or common) to all matter (Plank)- then you COULD say LOVE HAD A FREQUENCY.

This became all the more compelling when about four different branches of BRAIN WAVE research then conclude that GOLDEN MEAN RATIO identifies - BLISS , COMPASSION, CREATIVITY and probably ENLIGHTENMENT in BRAIN WAVES. ( summaries at goldenmean.info/hearttunerspecial , goldenmean.info/blisstuner , goldenmean.info/enlightenment , goldenmean.info/creativity etc).

So .. in order to potently test the idea that then A (Music) Machine OUGHT to be able to FIX us - by MAKING THE LOVE FREQUENCY FOR US .. we then built the famous - PERFECT PHI HARMONIC CASCADE - (chord) built on the PERFECT KEY SIGNATURE (Plank length in physics ). We put this into an mpeg dragover Flash plug in sound on the web page: goldenmean.info/antakarana - played by millions. AND sure enough - we have been able to use this sound to ABSOLUTELY SICKEN AND MAKE NAUSEOUS audiences in dozens of countries.

It bears repeating from that web site demo - that indeed - while mechanically generated phi sounds - CLEARLY make people SICK!!!..

Yet ..if you make the SAME APPARENT FREQUENCIES with a trained CHOIR - you have an excellent chance at bliss and euphoria. !?

SO how is a scientist supposed to - descriminate between the frequencies your best borg computer could make to say I LOVE YOU - vs the same apparent frequencies coming from the EKG of your lover.. (In other words- pray tell- then what is the DIFFERENCE BETWEEN machine made LOVE FREQUENCIES - .... sickening by my experience.. versus REAL LOVE FREQUENCIES..)

This is similar as we said - to Bill Tiller's dilemna in his latest physics of consciousness books - he can measure the electrical change in conductivity (obviously we now know induced by the fractal charge compression producing charge distribution - we call consciousness ) after a PLACE - is impressed with what he calls BIOLOGICAL INTENT.

````WHY CANNOT A MACHINE DO THIS FOR US ? ( hint - we don't WANT it to. Study the meaning of context richness in DNA - 'Grammatical Man' - it's a braiding algorhythmn appropriated only to DNA for appropriate reasons..)..

.. Well at this point.. enter the dialog with about every spiritually oriented musical genius on planet earth .. many of whom have written ( see below). ..

each absolutely sure they are close to the musical recipe to put everyone in heaven..

PLUS .. numerous and sundry 'clever' companies who for only a few dollars can send you the (borg?) tape - BASED ON GOLDEN MEAN RATIO - which will spit into your brain the FREQUENCIES NEEDED to FIX YOU: seriouscomposer.com/PhiMusic.htm from phi-music.com also neurophone.com from phisciences.com also transparentcorp.com braintuner.com/bodyvibes.htm to name but a few - not one of whom appear to be in the LEAST committed to the concept of SELF EMPOWERMENT - which in our view - is the ONLY path to sustainability.

- transparentcorp.comwrites: Dan, If you plan on doing research on our technology you should consider using the Neuro-Programmer 2 Professional, which will be released in a few weeks. It implements the latest research, and is significantly more advanced than previous versions or anything else currently available. I would be very interested in taking a look at your research when completed. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, Adam Hewett, Transparent Corp: )

Conversely - we apply this to understand the pure principle of how neurofeedback training to MAKE THESE MISSING HARMONICS YOURSELF FROM WITH - CAN be SELF EMPOWERING ( hint: self sustaining ) - at goldenmean.info/ritalin , goldenmean.info/braintuner , goldenmean.info/blisstuner

Now - it remains true that the authentic method which thousands of studies have concluded ELIMINATE ATTENTION DEFICIT and ADDICTION with about 70% documented success - in neurofeedback - amount to REPLACE THE MISSING HARMONIC in the balanced cascade- to heal.

AND it remains true that HARMONIC INCLUSIVENESS - not only medically predicts your HEARTS RESISTANCE TO DISEASE - ( goldenmean.info/holarchy ) - but ALSO in this authors view - PREDICTS HOW ALIVE IS ANY LIVING THING. ( goldenmean.info/germination , etc - - a seed, a galaxy , or .. a FOREST - for measurements see "bioacoustic habitat theory" at goldenmean.info/desertification/DESERTFY.html ) .

It is also true in our view- that the perfected constructive compression into HARMONIC INCLUSIVENESS - which causes gravity and life - is precisely invited by GOLDEN MEAN RATIO.

We have also concluded that phi harmonics are not only the essence of best ACOUSTIC LEVITATION. ( http://www.forums.atlantisrising.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000266-2.html ) but MORE importantly - they are the verifiable CAUSE - OF GRAVITY.. (as in self-similarity) ( goldenmean.info/gravitycode and goldenmean.info/hadron and goldenmean.info/thrust )

We would also remind you that the SAME - change of tuning fork pitch - which functions nicely as a (micro) gravity vortex measure (see: http://www.intalek.com/Index/Projects/SmartSPOT/SmartSPOT.htm "Figure above is a phenomenon caused by a change in gravity. This change causes mass, volume, frequency, time and energy to curve or fluctuate. To measure this change in gravity, the SmartSPOT system was developed. It measures this change as a temporal difference using an Accutron tuning fork watch, which vibrates at a natural frequency of 360Hz. Since the frequency of vibration of the tuning fork watch is a function of geometry and mass, a change of these parameters would be indicated by a change of watch's natural frequency. This is key towards understanding mass fluctuations due to changes in gravity. ") - The SAME tuning fork micro tone change - is how CLASSES ARE CONDUCTED IN HOW TO MEASURE THE AURA SIZE AND VITAL FORCE IN ANY LIVING THING! ( by - :Stéphane Cardinaux, Architecte EPFL et géobiologiste, énergéticien, formateur, conférencier. membre de l'Association Suisse d'Ecobiologie, St-Sulpice - CH, geniedulieu.ch and - Yann Lipnick, S.France - www.zomes-concept.com ) .

Here again - affirming the connection between - self similarity - - successful charge compression - causing BOTH gravity and LIFE FORCE.

It is also true that almost everyone who has studied HOW AND WHEN - the brain EEG - links to the natural Schuman resonance of Earth - eventually gets around to discussing Golden Mean ratio as the geometry of permissive EMBEDDING -- ( http://www.geocities.com/nwbotanicals1/oak/newphysics/schumann.htm , and Dr Saskia Bosman's recent trip to Eastern Europe to measure EEG phase lock to Shumann- her works: spiralsofevolution.nl - originally co-authoring goldenmean.info/pineal )..

We might distill this dialog to the simple question HOW DO WE BUILD THE FREQUENCIES ( of Earth culture ) to sustain life ( survive)? Clearly - perfect EMBEDDING is exactly the answer.

You might in answer hum of few bars of the muisical - DODECA-DANCE - http://www.elucida.com/dodeca_dan.html which Mary there seems to have removed the original dedication to Dan Winter.. ( Funny how many web sites Stan Tenen seems to manage to threaten with extinction if a certain name is mentioned.. Fear IS still the mind killer.)

Just like our genetic engineering ancestors - forgot to read the fine print. ( whose software for genetic modifying later came to be called the Hebrew AND Sumerian alphabets: Virus Music Tuned by Heart- Rife-Merkel-Naessens ... more of my thoughts on Sumerian optics, aka Merkel -11/15/99: Climbing into and Out of The Great Worm..DNA Activation" goldenmean.info/dnaactivation , and goldenmean.info/virusmusic )

They were mining for the white gold powder / manna / ormes/ spice.. (in the white tablet form which later was tragicomic christian 'holy communion') - whose VALENCE ELECTRONS were golden ratio .. when they caused our race to be born. They too forgot to read the warning in fine print - (eating this white powder - golden ratio - ) MAY COST YOUR RACIAL SOUL.

The implication is - biology can sustain only what biology can make for itself INSIDE OUT.

Recently - we were reading the details of how the Grey ET's who have taken up a largely parasitic role sucking at what remains of our DNA - LOST THEIR HOMEWORLD. The lesson is so exquisitely helpful to our condition. THEY TOO WERE SURE THERE WAS A MACHINE TO FIX EVERYTHING.

- SO - we need to be clear - WHY - cannot a machine make the GOLDEN RATIO harmonics to fix all that is wrong with our genepool. SURELY if EMBEDDING created biologic immortality - we can have a machine harmonically do that for us? Or can't we.

I am reminded of the Golden day - when dear Russell Wright dug out the PHI HARMONICS audio tape which Dr Ed Wilson had smuggled from his work out of Monroe Institute - after Bob Monroe apparently told him this was too scary / dangerous. Ed had found out that fibonacci audio cascades leading to Golden Ratio tones in headphones were THE way to DEFINE BRAINWAVE TRANSCENDANCE - in multichannel EEG studies of TRANSCENDENTAL STATES ( goldenmean.info/blisstuner ). After ED built the first few Golden Ratio audio brain entrainment tapes - is when he decided to run from Bob Monroe. Dr.Wilson discovered (my) similar work linking Golden Ratio in EKG cascades to Compassion- travels to NY and creates documentary with Winter (1992). source: VHS Video: "Fibonacci Resonance, The Brain, & Consciousness" with Ed Wilson, MD, & Daniel Winter 1992 at Crystal Hill Farm, Eden, NY"

Getting back to the story- Russell - whose kundalini days were intense - and time with Muktananda - too intense ? and time with the sacred mushroom - also perhaps too intense? -- decides to embibe this next swallow of pure FIRE deeply. He intensely plays the phi cascades into his headphones ( rushing in dependably again where angels fear to tread). What Russell reported was days perhaps weeks before the feeling of dizzyness - and ringing - and un-groundedness - left him. (let us look up again what Thoth meant by personality fractionating while eating gold powder ignoring the psych WORK it takes to earn access to the RING.. - in all respect to Pat Flanagan - old friend - I would have to comment multiple sources have described similar effects from friends addicted to his MICROHYDRIN - a slightly less aggressive chemical implosion perhaps / monoatom of hydrogen - in a water dodeca clathrate).

What we all seem to desperately WANT to ignore - is the connection between BIOLOGY ALONE making the wave geometry of embedding - ONLY when it has done the inner BIO-LOGIC necessary to arrange it's CHARGE SYMMETRY and THEREFORE it's SORTED MEMORY - INTO WHAT IS INDEED SHAREABLE (that is wave embeddable - which we now suggest measurement using COHERENCE mathematics - coherence whose limit condition is the 3D fractal 'grail' triggered by PHI harmonics ). This again is just like Thoth announcing carefully next to the failed St Germain experiment - that INNER WORK TO SORT MEMORY MUST ACCOMPANY THE CONSUMPTION OF GOLD POWDER- otherwise PERSONALITY FRACTIONATES.

So - now with years of retrospect wisdom - how would we consider the priority / the risk?

Fractal recursive charge compression is the ultimate form of charge COHERENCE. Access to the electrical charge inertia / spin path of black hole / implosion (the KHEM in alCHEMy) - is a privelege generally reserved for biology itself - because only those molecules have earned the electrical inertia to respect the phase discipline (the pure intention of shareable waves). Getting there is like slowing your hand with perfect deacceleration calculus - to grade a capacitance wave to the zero point in the cadduceus spin path to zero point (you never really stop - you just keep halving your velocity). This capacitance wave catching phenomenon - is something which we used to childishly call THE QUALITY OF GRACE (perfect yoga dance).

Why do we have so many names for spirit (chi orgone barraka shaktipat spirit eck freshness) ? - while ignoring the fact that capacitors measure this. Was it because we wanted to be in the state of schizophenic denial thinking our ELECTROSMOG did not KILL OUR BLISS?

SO - the fact is immanently and baldly clear. We can continue to expect we are going to build some heavy metal CIRCUIT to replace the BIOLOGY OF LIFE FORCE. (as Jacques Brel said.. 'but as for living - we'll let our servants / machines - do that for us). This will clearly take us down the road - which has already so massively destroyed inhabited stars across the orion wars. ( puts you in George Bush school) OR - we can notice - that we may use our external to biology METAL capacitors only a little while longer (computers and circuits to make implosion to taste gravity's volts).. only IF we agree to look at them as symbolic wave guides to get ready to DO IT INSIDE!! - HERE is the do it inside: BLISS HYGIENE (Bliss Hygiene list)- BLISS MEASUREMENT -

Trying to nest our heavy metal wires and capacitors in to the symmetry skill to access the modem algorhythmn to make the phone call.. is not permission to join the conversation.

To join the conversation you must have something to ADD. That requires having some charge symmetry information (the form of all biologic survival) which contributes to sustainability of life.

Metallic capacitors or mechanically digital symthesized sound will feel and taste like poison (and often induce nausea) in all the DNA based life (you and me) around. This is because the information which is accelerated thru mechanical means - has only the information context (harmonic record) of PAIN. This is perhaps the most profound example possible of Marchall McLuhan's old truism: "The Medium IS the Message!" ( not something I was able to convince Helen Shuckman when she discussed with me why she refused to have her name as author/ channel on "Course in Miracles" - then she died.)

The symmetry language in which that is generally expressed (the phase coherence called pure intention which evidences a shareable wave - nothing else survives ultimately)
- is the phase angles for charge entry into DNA. These shadows of the charge toroid donut MAGnetic domains - had been abreviated for us early in the Orion wars - as the origins of our alphabets ( see: http://spirals.eternite.com ) The message was simple: if you wish to be part of life - join the fractal symmetry of charge - principle of the shareable - which unifies (fuses in the center of) ALL BIOLOGY.

It will not be enough be make our capactitors and audio oscillators to look like a rose. We must build our refrigerators, beds, houses, towns and cities - to also look like a rose - made of the same materials as pine cones ( bio-logic capacitors).

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addend - more friends in the dialog:
Damon email: damon2012@charter.net - Hey Brother Dan,
I have been experimenting with brainwave entrainment software recently as part of my daily routine and meditation practice. www.transparentcorp.com has the best I've found. I have been guided to incorporate the Fibonacci and phi ratio into tracks I've been creating. I choose to know if I've been using the right formula and if you had any additional suggestions feedback.
1) I have been reducing the current frequency modulations starting with around 13hz by .618 multiplying incrementally. 13 - 8.04 - 4.965...etc.

2) I have also tried ranging up beginning w/ .618 and then adding by "Fi"
.618, 1, 1.618. 2.618,,,etc

My next step is to do the same with the timing intervals between frequency modulation shifts...
3) Does the same formula apply?
Any research on the time intervals for optimal brainwave entrainment?
Say from Beta down to Delta?

Any input is greatly appreciated!! Lo Phi, Damon Dickinson , Mandala Multimedia Productions INc. www.EasyCommerceSpot.com

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robin- "Has anyone looked at Phi scales (for lack of a better term on my part)
based on more "standard" musical octaves?

By this I mean, you can play an ascending or descending Phi scale, and play
the identical scale, transposed, one octave up or down. Also, if you were
in any given Phi key, would it be permissable to play the scale for the
first few notes in proper succession, and then begin to use octaves of the
remaining notes in the scale.

Or with Phi, is it the power in the actual vortex of successive notes that
propagates or maintains the force?

Would dipping up & down in octaves kill the natural flow of the energy
(even though the "notes are the same")?

What is your take on this?

I am so glad that I found your website, I wasn't sure that there was anyone
else out there who thought about this stuff...

Also, if Phi is "infinite" (in both directions) then how can we
legitamately stick our flag in the dirt and say, "this is where I'm
starting from."... and then proceed to multiply a given number by Phi in
order to spin out a vortex?

Would golden spirals then not depend on one's point of reference? (Also,
interestingly enough including the observer as a factor of the results -
contrary to most of modern science's strange approach to observational
testing). And if this is then the case, are golden spirals an intensely
personal thing? How can you possibly share or connect with any other thing
in any other instant of time other than the instant where you created the
spiral? The spirals would never match up? Even in the split second it
would take another resonant body to interpret the spiral, the moment is lost.

Does this make sense?

But well... I suppose that the other resonant body could begin to resonate
in parallel with that which emitted the spiral... but, has anyone looked
into this?

Also, you speak of the dangers of implosion, and of certain parties
ignoring these dangers and making music that may be damaging. Can you
explain how this is damaging... and if there are are dangers to implosions,
what are the safe ways to use implosion? What should a person be striving
for with proper use of this knowledge? ...for positive inspiration and
bodily effects? Is it the "key" used?

Also, why was Planck's constant used in deriving the music notes in:

http://www.goldenmean.info/antakarana/index.html

...this was never explained. Was it pulled out of the air? How does that
number aid in a more well-tuned key for audible phi harmonics?

I think that that's it for now... there's a lot I still don't understand...
but I'm getting there. You are a true inspiration Dan.. thank you.

=Robin=

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Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:39:16 -0700
From: Michael Heleus <mheleus1@cox.net>Tue, 26 Apr 2005 , Dan and Damon, I'd bet 'transparent' was inspired by 'invisible landscape'--and on hearing the samples, I am impressed by the use of an LFO FM oscillator to modulate white or pink noise with the Schumann resonance frequency amongst those I recognized. I had used that technique to get around the audio flicker fusion problem created when it was necessary to hear smooth oscillations below that threshhold for some of the lower octaval scale-shifted planetary periods-- (1982 Planetary Notes Astrosonics tape). Using the phi ratio single series of such modulations will probably work, but as a single series may leave you below/above unbalanced--less likely amongst meditaters and those on a definite spiritual path probably. I found a dual phi series in the audio range reduced to within a single selected octave worked better as the one series balanced the other, and have had a tape out since 1986 using this idea, The Triple Processor, in an initial section called the Rydberg Phi Progression. I talked to Dan today about using this as ambience for heart coherence monitor situations wherein the participants would like to more readily come to phi-linkage states, or have a higher percentage of at least the session time in these states.

So Dan, would it be possible when we talk tomorrow to have arranged an experimental phone session to last covering the one hour time of the Triple Processor tape, or others I have using phi that may also be so tested with a couple on the monitor? And if you know their birthdates, and they are willing, would you supply those so I can see what other phi
tapes I have that would be suitable to their charts? I used to be able to do joint frequencies, and that makes for significant communications improvements quickly. Maybe again soon, hard and software allowing.

Damon, are you familiar with Anna Weise and her Mind Mirror eeg displays, like of the state 'creative mind'? Dan's software can now show a similar display, and the state mentioned has a person tune out the Schumann resonance (and thus certain fears and the mass-mind) while tuning in the two bands one above and one below the Schumann of the 2 main families of planetary resonances not only I discovered in the late '70's , but also Don Hotson in his recent essays.

Robin, I read your exchange with Dan about the phi scales and started an enote to you not ready yet.

Dan, pls forward to Damon and Robin--thx,

Michael

more from Michael:

You'd mentioned Luke and me as seeing a DNA factory in Sereda's disks--no, it was Luke and Duane Whitloc --I saw a Tony Sarantites' type atom on meso-scale--Don Duke introed me to Sarantites which he used doing m-state chemistry--

Lots of issues to sort out using phi--machines making it can be an aid to learning what to actively biologically produce, as with the voice imitating a synthesizer, or dance, but some experienced discrimination is required to know when to wean from the mechanical variety.

Related issue is also, can there be mass enlightenment brought on by natural, even apparently mechanical environmental factors, like being near a phi-proportioned temple complex in lieu of being near a phi and m-state rich realized saint, or like being near phi-progressions coming from a synthesizer, or like being nearer a central sun, whose rays would be both higher in frequency and phi frequency proportions supposedly than the sun, as Yogananda's guru, Sri Yukteswar thought--or does it take individual and small group action in an environment way removed from a central sun's radiations, as Gurdjieff maintained, which is hardly a mass ascension? Here take note that mass enlightenment in any form brings up other problems, like availability of sufficient spiritual positions/states with finer matters/energies allowing the higher consciousness, the remaining duality between an enlightened being and Source with its 'room at the top' problem. Maintaining an optimum distribution of cosmic stuffs so as not to inundate the unprepared or starve the advanced will be very challenging, especially in the presence of mechanical phi distributors that can change these balances in unexpected and even dangerous ways (even the Great Pyramid at Giza, for example). Mass ascensions, even if possible, further lend themselves to astral politics and short circuits to middle and even lower inner levels. Special appeals need to be made to advanced UT's, ET's and specially trained human saints for aid in attending to these situations. You wouldn't want to ascend into a wrong dimension, or be met with an inappropriate greeting committee, or find part of your needed being left behind.

In terms of using phi sounds, the form of the sound can be optimized to factor in safety considerations--this wasn't done with the simple phi ratio progressions in your report, hence the frequent mentions of excessive discomfort beyond what may be necessary for useful results. State of being of the sound designer, inner aid, and a philosophical model strongly following objective reality, like Sant Mat, Enneagram studies, Sankhya philosophy, or Taoism, etc. appears required to take the matter beyond simple progressions and intervals with any real hope of arriving at a useful result without considerable to overwhelming detrimental side effects.

I think it has been difficulty in arranging for this last factor that has discouraged traditional paths from using dynamic phi sound and consequently relegating phi to the much more muted static frozen music of architecture.

There is also the problem of misunderstandings from missed gradient states resulting from passing thru the states too quickly to coordinate/assimilate them. Well designed phi progressions can indeed be a 'rocket ride' to higher levels compared to usual meditation, as one experienced meditator put it, but even then, will there be enough understanding (read coherence across bandwidths) for much of the state to be assimilated, and 'stick'--that is, being there often enough to know you're indeed 'there'?

As I write this, Sun in space begins to go square to Neptune in fixed signs--so we here grapple with the deep, long term pervasive problems of reality and realization which are traditionally encrusted with glamour, illusion, disillusion, paranoia and other out-of-place imagination.

This is a time to clarify issues and broaden critical bandwidths. Being very clear in a narrow band and ignoring the rest leads to confusion later.

I don't wish to scare those interested in phi sound and music off with all these difficulties--I only wish to share insights my decades of experiences and mistakes have given me.

Michael

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more from Damon: Dear Robin,
I pointed Dan to Transparent Corp recently in my hands on study of brainwave entrainment technologies .
The Brain Sound Studio is one of the finest and easiest consumer level products of it's kind.
I have a couple of custom tracks based on Phi and Fibonacci ratio. if you download the demo version I may be able to send you my files to experiment with.
If you've never used this technology before you may want to start with some of the lighter entrainments. A Phi ratio progression into Delta brainwave states can pretty heavy duty for a beginner. Have confidence in your interaction with Dan and friends. we all start from where we are, and share and learn. I believe we each bring a unique gift to the mix. No comparing the bamboo to the oak!!!
Namaste
D